Do You Have A Rare 1989 Penny Worth $3,000? Here’s The Scoop On 1989 Pennies & Their Value



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Did you know there’s a rare 1989 penny worth $3,000 or more?

It’s true! And you may find one in your pocket change.

I’ll tell you how to find this rare 1989-D penny and also share more info on what your 1989 pennies are worth.

Why Are Some 1989 Pennies Rare & Valuable?

Some old pennies are worth more than others, and in the case of a rare 1989-D penny, it’s worth much, much more!

Circulation-strike 1989 pennies are typically made of a copper-plated zinc composition. Many 1982 pennies and all business-strike pennies made since 1983 are supposed to be made from that zinc composition.

However, there have been a few hiccups in the metal composition of Lincoln pennies since 1982 — when the United States Mint transitioned from making 95% copper pennies to 97.5% zinc pennies.

Apparently, a few 1989-D pennies were accidentally minted on pre-1983 95% copper planchets (prepared coin blanks).

There’s not much info on how these 1989 penny copper planchets wound up getting struck some 7 years after the last copper Lincoln cents were supposed to be made. But, what we do know is that these rare off-metal error coins are worth a ton of money!

For example, a rare 1989-D penny sold in August 2016 for $3,525!

How To Find A Rare 1989-D Penny

Sure, it’s pretty cool that some people have found these rare 1989-D pennies and that they’re worth more than $3,000…

But here’s some more good news for you: it’s possible to find these valuable coins in your pocket change!

So how can you tell a regular 1989-D penny apart from the rare 1989-D copper penny?

You’ve got to weigh them:

  • The valuable 1989-D copper penny weighs about 3.11 grams
  • A normal zinc-based 1989-D penny weigh approximately 2.5 grams

You can use a coin scale to see what your 1989 penny weighs, or you can try dropping it to listen for the difference:

  • Zinc-based pennies will make a dull clicking sound when dropped on a hard surface, such as a table.
  • Copper pennies let out a quiet, bell-like ring when hitting hard surfaces.

Normally, it’s not recommended to drop coins onto hard surfaces. But in this case, where you’re generally dealing with common coins, it’s okay.

There are other valuable, rare copper Lincoln pennies from the 1980s. These include:

What Are Other 1989 Pennies Worth?

Maybe you don’t have the rare 1989-D copper penny and your regular, worn 1989 and 1989-D pennies are worth only face value — but that doesn’t mean all of your 1989 pennies are worthless!

Here’s what uncirculated and proof 1989 pennies are worth today:

  • 1989 Philadelphia (no-mintmark) penny: 7,261,535,000 minted — 10 to 25+ cents
  • 1989-D penny: 5,345,467,111 minted — 10 to 25+ cents
  • 1989-S (San Francisco) proof penny: 3,220,948 minted — $2+

*Values listed above are for uncirculated and proof 1989 pennies. As previously mentioned, all worn, regular-issue (no error) 1989 and 1989-D pennies are worth face value. 

See What Else Happened When Your 1989 Penny Was Made

1989 was a busy year! While your 1989 penny was rolling off the presses at the United States Mint, this is what else was going on:

  • President George Herbert Walker Bush became the 41st President of the United States on January 20, 1989.
  • The Exxon Valdez oil tanker ran aground in Prince William Sound, Alaska on March 24, 1989 — spilling 11 million gallons of oil and creating an environmental nightmare along miles of shoreline.
  • A deadly, 6.9-magnitude earthquake rattled San Francisco and the surrounding areas on October 17, 1989, killing 67 people and causing massive devastation.
  • The Berlin Wall fell in the German capital on November 9, 1989, helping reunite free West Germany and Soviet-governed East Germany.
  • Deadly pro-democratic rallies were held in China’s Tiananmen Square.
  • Top songs in 1989 included “Right Here Waiting” by Richard Marx, “Love Shack” by the B-52s, “Like A Prayer” by Madonna, “Don’t Wanna Lose You” by Gloria Estefan, “Miss You Much” by Janet Jackson, and “Blame It On The Rain” by Milli Vanilli.
  • The most popular movies of 1989 were Batman, Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade, Parenthood, Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Dead Poets Society, and The Little Mermaid.
  • Top-rated TV shows in 1989 included “Seinfeld,” “Cheers,” “The Simpsons,” “Quantum Leap,” “Who’s The Boss?,” “The Cosby Show,” “The Golden Girls,” “Roseanne,” “Full House,” and “Family Matters.”

More Info On 1989 Lincoln Pennies

In addition to the links I’ve included above, here are some other resources to help you learn more about your 1989 penny value:

Joshua

I'm the Coin Editor here at TheFunTimesGuide. My love for coins began when I was 11 years old. I primarily collect and study U.S. coins produced during the 20th century. I'm a member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA) and the Numismatic Literary Guild (NLG) and have won multiple awards from the NLG for my work as a coin journalist. I'm also the editor at the Florida United Numismatists Club (FUN Topics magazine), and author of Images of America: The United States Mint in Philadelphia (a book that explores the colorful history of the Philadelphia Mint). I've contributed hundreds of articles for various coin publications including COINage, The Numismatist, Numismatic News, Coin Dealer Newsletter, Coin Values, and CoinWeek. I've authored nearly 1,000 articles here at The Fun Times Guide to Coins (many of them with over 50K shares), and I welcome your coin questions in the comments below!

135 thoughts on “Do You Have A Rare 1989 Penny Worth $3,000? Here’s The Scoop On 1989 Pennies & Their Value

  1. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if my 1989 no mint has doubling or not https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/189c346a134b87297733a962d0b754ed52ce02fb580c44a58adff6a358d98c1d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4239b459ce3b6a2c38589e24c2d7fbdcde5ff74d56cfc99981c30b9f55eecae.jpg

    1. Hi, Casey —

      This appears to be light machine doubling. This is actually not an error or die variety per se but rather a result of a late-stage die. I’d hang on to it as some people do pay more for these coins (sometimes a dollar or two), but generally speaking these are not valuable coins.

      Best wishes,
      Josh

    1. Hello, Erica —

      I’m sorry, but I don’t seem to see a photo associated with your comment. Would you mind uploading the image again or please tell me the coin, its date, and a few more details on your coin, please?

      Thank you!
      Josh

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        1. Hi, Erica!

          I LOVE these old Lincoln wheat cents…

          Here’s more info on the value of the 1942 penny: https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/1942-penny-value/

          Good luck,
          Josh

  2. Hi josh, I have a Lincoln penny that looks like it has doubling on it. Can you please take a look and let me know for sure if it is or isn’t ? Thank you in advance https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97b059267fcce23d7ce81f6f081209dbdefbbd497353d1bd00acb5606dfea52c.png

    1. Hi, Tracy —

      I see what might be light machine doubling on this one, but to determine if this might be a double die, I need to know the coin’s date and mintmark, please.

      Thank you!
      Josh

      1. Hi Josh I have a 1956 D and it appears to have what looks like another D stamped right under the mint mark. Can you please take a look at it for me and let me know what you think? Thanks for your help https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc50e63caaecd12464de6dbcff8adb868b9aafe26fc699b9a08ad739deae10fe.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0667f149ec961b927247a13a6b0dd61ca13b17b010d7f56fc734835ec998cbfe.jpg

        1. Hi, Tracy —

          I think the photo might be a tad fuzzy on my end, but I do see something under that “D,” too… Is it possible you might be able to kindly upload a clearer shot of that part of the coin, please?

          Thank you,
          Josh

          1. Hi Josh I took better pictures. I hope this helps . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2dcd28d0bb8bb0fa9119058fd065f2f259791781b30c6bcff843ce55c2a1cebd.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb344d35df9c7cdb39b56e66c7c5a1418f6b04af2933e1cc62ef9a8f8931e1b2.png

          2. Hi, Tracy –

            Ah, great photos… Yes, I’m very sure this is a repunched 1956-D cent. There are several kinds, but I think this is a “D Above Shadow D,” which retails for about $20 to $30, maybe a little more, in this grade.

            Very nice find!
            Josh

          3. Hmmm…. Very close to breaking even if you do, Tracy. It’s hard to say how this coin would grade because there may be wear on the coin that can only be seen when it’s viewed at different angles (which, of course, I can’t do here in the photo). If it grades really high — into the middle Mint State grades and indeed verifies as a “D Above Shadow D” variety then, yes, you could make a net profit off the coin if you choose a lower-priced grading service and then sell it. But whatever you do, should you opt for certification, don’t waste your time and money with an off brand. Go with one of the firms mentioned in this post (I have no personal connections to any of them): https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/slabbed_coins/

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          4. Hi Josh I know this might be a little off topic. I found a 1871 Canadian quarter I believe. Also I have a coin that I want to check out. Supposedly it’s from China 1700’s-1800’s. I found them both going through my foreign coins. What do you think? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e1a9954c8ba6be30d2c53825d436558ba44eccf982387c68aa4d2fa1bfa0565.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eabf0153b96303bca5a14381b104294ee67f5dc874d6d4d789e35e4204f17543.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e77a87b6a456fc7c8c39f0aeabfe7390caab950633532c392777af9960d6d346.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12702a2c7e8f75a7a55810c8432fbb1105c067f48b1aff42155e52863dd464f9.png

          5. Hello, Tracy —

            I unfortunately have virtually no experience with Asian coins and would be unable to help you there, but you might be happy to know I’m pretty well acquainted with Canadian coins. 1871 Canada quarters are relatively scarce, and even in the basal state yours is in, I believe its value is around $10 to $15.

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          6. Hey josh, I have a roll of almost uncirculated 1956 D Lincoln wheat pennies. I have several that have a questionable mint mark on them. Can you please take a look at them for me and tell me what you think? Thanks in advance tgese are just some of them. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f9d3e00854244d3d3a244f8578023f6c40aa5ccd723ba5c860bdb003ebf5bcd.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/abeb33ef2663198e0a144f10c96f0ec6a45ee041c317ded45743ce4f51c3b057.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7601f35f35d3a8a71c5b1193948fce287d9a966306ff0d964e6db3ed2a8cd578.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/949fce496142b90f0107c7f98a0ab44a07b88dd4aec171809c7885af589960e5.png

          7. Hi, Tracy —

            The second and fourth 1956-D pennies really seem to have some type of ghosting with the “D” mintmark. Perhaps they’re repunched mintmarks, but I’m not too sure as I’m not as much a die variety expert. I’d suggest sending these photos to John Wexler or Chuck Daughtrey to see if one of them can attribute these pieces for you. Some of these pieces could be worth a few bucks or more.

            John Wexler: https://doubleddie.com/
            Chuck Daughtrey: https://www.coppercoins.com/index.php

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          8. Hey josh, i found a 2010 D lincoln penny that has a very strange glob of metal right by Lincoln’s face. What would this be from? Its way too big to be a bubble error right? Here are some picture’s so you can see it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b1210681c363d0f89ef5f48815b39c04184070c69c18571c224c8ee54678d468.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be477f468d27f4e76a214e1fd33fcd5e238de941a6cd799239b6cedfd81d785f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc4031ac20440d4feec8a9e9fff374c2c48c4b3f81bd8b453c4683a1915f766c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c6a63027f1440df44f7726618f90fe08ff3708ab762db864d606b68affca9802.jpg

          9. Ooh, Tracy —

            That’s a cool find. It might either be a gas bubble or die break, but what’s important here is the size. It’s not your ordinary bubble. I’m a little concerned about the darkening of color around that part of that coin; it would lead me to wonder if that blob was applied post-mint by a heating or chemical process, which would cause that part of the coin to darken. My best suggestion is to send it in for an in-hand inspection to test and ensure the blob contains the same metal composition as the rest of the coin and can be verified as a mint-produced error, evident through the continuation of microscopic flow lines in the metal.

            Cheers,
            Josh

          10. Hey josh, happy Easter. I found a 1974 S lincoln penny that looks like the date might be doubled. Not just that lincoln looks like he has 4 legs. There is what appears to be doubling on both of his legs. Here are some pictures. Thanks in advance https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0d6873ae36d25536b8083fb92f2fe93e6f511bbb13e9c53f0f9c1dc0005a2fbc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91d4c28a823d0dce0dc255fec7cef5f6d7bbd1ee841cf72cde64dd5660fe72b3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/074b69af6a50cf803947d75bb6d398f6071aec2dc04dd57a86ec39e8f5f2075d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99af99d890d21ae0d8c0ea58e7ce0f9618e2cd6d99878703caa567304ffb943e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca83b10d6a018e038da3bb017555ed3b446088feb83b4f6d6f41683f107f2a1b.jpg

          11. Happy Easter, Tracy!

            Yes, I seem to see some solid doubling in the “4” of the date for sure… The four legs of Lincoln I’m not too sure about I think because in my end it also looks like it could be his chair, too. The lighting on your end may be better in person than what I’m seeing in the photo, so perhaps the lines of his legs (and any doubling that may be there) could be more evident than what I am seeing. But as for the doubling in the “4”? Yes, that seems solid based on what I see here.

            Great find!
            Josh

          12. Thank you! I have another coin I need your opinion on this 1962 D Lincoln penny. I think the date is doubled. And most of the letters on the obverse. On the reverse is that machine doubling or a double die? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebce134ddc3247e0ca9f114653fc40f1b5231779cff7fd63bd733249ef525081.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/08e5dd565c7ed87928db502be165d03179115069c54373bc0580cb0f8bbed343.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c395f2ab5eed442c61a5546bbea226afd5c27d4426f760f609a3d720a4db0e35.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0113696872a56b61b92043f1f5e84bcb08410f95dfd04de01da09b47f325daf.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f353ddb0c0df7aeb8aef67a91d05e42a6df1384d597fa05a8b3721b7b30b7c7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ee2f6dae1ff1c19826c193aec77c944ee6cfb9571aaa9034e05428d97c18186.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2a84b19b3ed6e7d1d1c7413346f6949ec4864ff521490665895b60c4219250e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3167ebf68214ea6d878519592443aaf74fe30e57b81f0af525a9ec49409b1877.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e555db7cb60d83cee1904c8e484eff42267b86b67c7cf491bbfefe35d4ddc29.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f353ddb0c0df7aeb8aef67a91d05e42a6df1384d597fa05a8b3721b7b30b7c7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2a84b19b3ed6e7d1d1c7413346f6949ec4864ff521490665895b60c4219250e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3fa667109c550eafed6e04166b804f2d33289fb858f0d95242b9142b958f63da.jpg

          13. Hi, Tracy —

            This appears to be machine doubling in the photos…

            Best wishes!
            Josh

          14. Hey josh, i found a 1983 D that I think is copper. I weighed it and it weighs 3.1 and it doesn’t look like it has the bubbles like most 83’s. I am almost positive the E in America is doubled. The obverse may be machine doubling like on the date. Idk I’m not sure if this coin is copper. Maybe you can tell by looking at the pictures. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/deb1f7acab61971615fdd8c0ddf0d2e631dd062513ab2b73e5bcfcd4a012dc0a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c49fba3daf4967f68426a12361e448ead2180c504ed85bf079c787287b1aa6fb.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e152776748550b5a21d67e8e2d3f9017138cfaa64bb520da2643b6096adf87fc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c452c88f61d7845f71b47f040c0f378a31874544b7375881f1530c8307ffda7e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1450d2535826ddaa1d7c7c22b7d01230a323e121e291e8cb4c764d8897ed6daa.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/54bff0d8d4e04dc96cbd21e73a8088b6f8c0d20c57fe7c28913741bf1caddfbe.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c991cd886b567600bdf06171a84d50797ac14de2f92a7c603e544c875f3757d2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8849a58de9ff4b54a09604be3f047da08c092ea006b15f64c5bf753c5ece19d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/409ad24cb1b529fb8fa0d181a6e36de7192b6d516e7e089c3d26b611aae32ded.jpg

          15. Hi, Tracy!

            You found a 1983-D that actually weighs 3.1 grams? OK, that’s enough of a diagnostic to have it sent off for verification. I’d suggest sending it to Fred Weinberg (https://www.fredweinberg.com/) — the latter may be better in this case since this would be an actual error and not merely a variety. Please first tell Fred what you told me — that this coin weighs 3.1 grams on your scale and that you’d like to see if it’s a bronze transitional off-metal error. Be sure to send him these photos, too. Please let him know I sent you… If this checks out, Fred and/or I can tell you how to proceed from there…

            Really hoping this is the real McCoy!
            Josh

          16. Hi josh, i found a 1969 D https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20892e8cfedd9a314fdc270d1304d4d17b3c75289c3f5c1707b293d642e5d9a1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2edda2592117e2a9261f2602a96c7ddb04ef3a3cd2ced46f587305dec5a7c530.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4591092e51d89468aab1ec7c0553d3ffd4d5532dcbbf46ff71a8d125f9cbc29.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b98367c0412b66fa0426fe4d78ee06a0e8c3bbaa47a55ea13e1378c0f5499be5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b025314efee4e1f5003582e84882db338e10f8d9243030f50d674ed4de0b4b4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23faf2c193e925332962bfeed08f7659ca92e97ea27a06783e6d43cd46dccbea.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/08f6d628bf115cfd04fc6bd4564653b46f746c7b7de7dbc46fd012346ec5fcca.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/543e4ff1100459c5c8bd34a2092751bdfd8e5cae4584a5d4c219c35ee7693aa2.jpg lincoln penny that looks like it has a U or something on the outside rim. It stands up off the rim and appears to be raised metal. Here are some pictures so you can maybe tell me why its like that.

          17. Hi josh, sorry to message you back to back but I have a question. I found a 1973 S penny that looks like probably machine doubling. You can see from the pictures that there are 2 extra images besides the original one. I’ve seen triple dies on nickels before but no pennies. Have you? Look at the O in one. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f48e5498d41a1137e67db3ed666c39e0f58711acd23def02c28f72bbda116b9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/581a8a293edf30b7f5de6004cab335836a6e7efd9b6add3b23798c00d1cecb3a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8cc1a8bf6410dd6ec8fc7f0f33e6f1e5c5b47074117c3f4f39b170bca400a5a6.jpg

          18. Hey, Tracy —

            Yes, I agree this looks most like machine doubling, given the outlines of the multiplied design appear to have been dragged from the primary strike. It can definitely be exhibited as tripling, too. Still, a neat find!

            Best,
            Josh

          19. Hey josh, i found a few pennies that have raised lines of metal on them. I have noticed a similarity between all of them. You know how when a there is a crack in the planchet and it fills itself with metal? On the ones I have found you can see the lines coming from the rim. I have it marked in my pictures here there is lines that actually look like they went all the way around the planchet. Some appear to be raised. I think maybe the die hit the planchet so hard that it actually shattered. Is this a possibility? Here are some pictures so you an see what I am talking about. Also i showed you a 1966 penny a while back that looked like it had a reeded edge on it. I can almost guarantee that these lines in the pictures are on that too. The reeds on that 66 could possibly be just like all these. Its not any specific year. That’s why I think it could be a shattered planchet. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/681fb6b34eb406d63a6edfdb413344b9a1347552c6acf20f75a6d167f29c6197.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2adbe453cc507a7ae9fdd4240c3054796c51fd0df4f70349eef740dea251b3bf.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12cd34363a21393080295870c97e5ab9b377b4ac4b9b059e6cf858d99044c929.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae8eb6c2c0481b6ba44e075de14edda9b7d8bb6995f88ea5e17c31c4af9088c0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/381d000ea1e57a276dadea80e8c8380414bab61d9976cfafc3b78559eec84243.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9a7a9baf76e90381be0cb24f09095d124c505e81326e5c757ea846b68274f8d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/973dd920f0007495b44a1f740702447f118b10caf214217d35a22a0db1bb6c47.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/473439b759a0c8617cebc03e31304429d8ac2a3a56f576b799bba7b174bb3762.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f4aaf080216b6df795cf4a360adf2f94511bd9166ba8c9683e791ed3159d0e5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66994de5646144266138d46eb51a84eaa9d8f523cc21c293c0294f0793f36b34.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c1921ece72157e67d2e56c820639f13d7e21390c6229209dbe8d39034f714e6.jpg

          20. Hi, Tracy –

            Yes, shattered dies do happen and actually those are among the most desirable type of die crack error. But the metal won’t fil back in, and the shattered dies will show moderate to heavy lines across the entire surface of the one side of the coin.

            What I DO see here are minor die cracks and some planchet flaws. I don’t believe these are very valuable as these are common but they are legit errors. The appearance of reeding on the side/edge of the pennies is most likely something happening with the retaining collar, which helps to form the rim when the coin is struck. There isn’t much study done in errors involving retaining collars except either when they are missing (broadstrike) or involve missing edge lettering, as with the so-called Godless Presidential dollars. There are also varieties involving the number of reeds on a reeded coin such as a dime, quarter, etc.

            Definitely hold aside the odd-looking pieces…

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          21. Hey josh, i found a 1951 D penny. The “I” in liberty looks to be way too far away from the L in liberty and too close to the B in liberty. I have looked at other 51 D’s and they are not like his one. Have you seen any like this? Also, I found a penny that looks like it is a skull on the rim. Here are pictures of both coins. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ed88a27ba059dd49315bfcd6a2c871292268985a548d7c7b4bd67aec3cf6848.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b871df493e09fde166823c50d9abc39effb747f8cda4b52bb7b975ac444b204b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/681d1de0c6e1edcad39da1aee6e1ff3388e4a5a55a8ffd236ef4a7e537de5b2c.jpg

          22. Hi, Tracy —

            Good questions… I’ve seen Lincoln cents like this before, and it is usually the case of post-mint alteration. You’ll note some damage to the right side of the “L” in “LIBERTY,” too.

            I do see the photo of the two bumps from the rim… They were likely caused by a disfluency in the retaining collar. It probably wouldn’t bring much of anything extra in the way of value due to its location and the fact the bumps are relatively minor, but it’s still neat to hold aside.

            Have a great day!
            Josh

          23. Hi josh, i found a 2009 P that I think is gonna be a new variety. Lincoln has 8 fingers on his left hand. It looks like he has a 2nd hand on top of the original be. Look at the pictures. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35641ac8304ab629a8d63ac14d453160e06f732da4fec6a2b41b0acf24bae58c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b8b341533765e66ca60e5510ffbb61ae215fba58db065e400c82b01ee59efeb.jpg

          24. Hi, Tracy —

            Hmm… Might be worth sending in for official attribution, BUT, beware that there’s machine doubling evident in the “ENT” of “CENT” just above, so it might come back as MD, too.

            Fingers (all 8 of them?) are crossed for you… 🙂
            Josh

          25. Hey josh, i have a 2000 D Washington state quarter that doesn’t look like it is on the proper planchet. It actually looks silver. Here are some pictures. Maybe you have seen a similar one. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4b354026744c45c04ed6cc3dfa78125f0826a88e2fd20197f0856c40a47a276.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95fb0848d4a5b9fe0c3ecd051856591320f9d473c8d3a1d4cd43c41e4eb1bcbe.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d76cf6467e06a445ed77cbeadae7d560dd887dafffc7ae8c1d1ee8e3578a971.jpg

          26. Hi, Tracy —

            What does this piece weigh, down to the tenth gram? Getting the weight would be critical to determining what’s going on here…

            Fingers crossed,
            Josh

          27. I will dig it out tomorrow after I get off work. Remember that 2009 lincoln penny that I showed you pictures of? The one where t looks like Lincoln has 8 fingers. Look what else I found on that same coin. If you look at Lincoln’s hip you can see the hole shape center of the log he’s sitting on. Do you think it’s double stamped? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48d438d6071d7b2060915cd46dd0890f652b988f739c421ddd6d628754609f57.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9cde5a6b4159c9e1cf1a906e7d0b8b75b5058b058c4f9ddc43cfc78e80641468.jpg

          28. Hi, Tracy –

            I see the two similar bumps, but this would’ve be from a double strike… The simply wouldn’t appear that far apart on the coin if they were double stamped. But I do see the bump on the log (ha ha) and wonder if it may be a die chip. That would be worth saving…

            Hmmm…
            Josh

          29. Hey josh, i was searching a box of pennies and found a 1971 S that looks like it has 3 clips in the planchet. The weird thing about this box is that for some reason the penny rolls in it some were short by 1 and 2 pennies. The machine they used to roll them was off. Look at the picture of the 2 penny rolls. You can see the coin doesn’t go to the end of the roll. I’ve counted 48 pennies in the ones I opened. We are taking the remaining back to the bank. They need to know they are not getting $25 worth of pennies. Look at what we got out of the rolls I did open. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97926b015d6b41d0ff563ec8c8e16c8b8e99ec25b5fecb3e15175afd55b766a3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e38d11e81ba3b457fb399ec114bacb2e451be4111c0fb119fb5ea174ced6f36.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a96eea42b0408c8925a2e9e47f3e9d1a2135d95fe4810dfcf736782d0072aa1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1510ba783daabee761a0aa1f6930ab86fa84ade7729e008da82fa5a978b8f21e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4edced2817c8ef629cf3aff12d438f46219bb4fe8fd6e1ed9c66658a3816f835.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1db15bc8d8b7de834d5245f252958863316faa8fd2d6b723df90d405f68f08f7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0481fcdfae5f1d0dd84a10cdbd6da6c0c045881a67209abed41aa07c861a266.jpg

          30. Hey, Tracy —

            The cuts look like bona dude clips, but it’s unusual to find a single coin with three clips. It might be worth sending to Fred Weinberg since he deals with these types of things.

            As for the 48 cents, I hope my two cents with the opinion makes up the difference for the roll of 50 🙂

            Best,
            Josh

          31. Hi josh, i found a 2018 D lincoln penny that is quite interesting. I don’t know what the heck is wrong with it. Maybe you can tell me. Some of the metal is raised and some isnt. Is this a cloth trike through r something else. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13f2877395e9f773c4b0afec0aa9fbe050c403d7c315a852b5807efd454ed226.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/acb53c30af10afb6ab17e5b2886ec7dd3ef2faa72176e3f5fe50e39ecbc593b3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/350d924f7636ea9e77a404709ba38a21689443ce01e665f4460da64299a16987.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/493ab654d20b42d83396d0aefe1eec9ef0576c496faae9ab508a9c0b8df3d109.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2c38ca8cc9f8169796273a6cb6dfc1a25c9d6a38c0a3b9910774df85d0e55b3b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/617996e804335a1bdee067ffa9cd1e933568f18ff5dc75e9e40b9e02dc0794b5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/493ab654d20b42d83396d0aefe1eec9ef0576c496faae9ab508a9c0b8df3d109.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b258b3cca4edf75096215f9b4922d563e57a7e0199cf1923a9f5b8788dfa992.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/109e748033a1c57e813739a2ea38efb7ab344a923533d342f72fbabc35b6d8ef.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64cff9347525478a1f5fc44d17661d7b86a395257b04dd6574a9ac83eac151d4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a59aadca4418f90915052ab73dd5c8507a8308be1d6a35fb8996b2d1fd8c1fd8.jpg

          32. Hi, Tracy —

            If the metal wasn’t as porous on the shield as it is is on the fields, I’d say it’s a possible planchet flaw, but it appears this coin has just been heavily damaged.

            Sorry!
            Josh

          33. Hey josh, i found a 1947 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd209f9ad83a02bd43381adfc3268fe10ef3ba15438466890f18e9c35606ece8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9a5dc767e7abd4466482d9a9b4a2b3d80f8f715c2dd7e78651b8a8986ec94048.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/31f2cc862c66f603b7c03dca462cb9d78652243ce91936a8673297ff6812369a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fa3cc389dda4a01ecd37ffe5d9c654989078cfa0bfd7a920df123c47a6d89440.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80fe669066d68409ef78c9916bd0d10c9bc5680d6b2f984330c9679c7967cef8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0f53b35a852b75ab6b744352ce076e1cf42a48b7dfb72ac18db3261a575a88e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b2b9912cbfb51da0d468da28d6423c9f936565e9f97a3246fbe50a0f6e89dd.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f6b5d24d640045afcdb00e75df4b55748a77df8f21838e08c7bd7fb3b58a15b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bec6192ac9ef6c9dbaa415c3aa3e1339ebe7948dbad56b2b003e857d0ada171.jpg S that is in very condition. It has most of the steps on it. I think it may be a double die obverse. I also think it has a RPM. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d716b7e081a0386384ae5024888639010f9e399ecf001e1bdef1145963411b4.jpg

          34. Hi, Tracy —

            This is a particularly nice 1947 nickel… You found this in pocket change? I’m afraid no full steps, and the doubling is mechanical. There is something happening with the S mintmark… I can’t tell in the closeup what though. There’s a raised mass in the middle of it and the top end of the S appears closed. This may be an RPM but even if it is can’t seem to match it to existing known varieties. Do hold aside…

            Nice find,
            Josh

          35. Hey josh, I found a 1996 P rosevelt dime that has a bunch of raised metal in front of his forehead and behind his head and neck. The raised metal in front of his forehead resembles his curls on the front part of his hair. It also appears to be slightly offcenter. It weighs 2.31. Here are some pictures so you can see what im talking about. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc94406453a15baf900e6a20a1836115edbaecb6645b82efb78c5a4ecf7cf683.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0ebcae7f75b42a864634f6f59e924f3194bf7a79fa91e50723579ed9556d549.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc95ff2c6332ad632203403ca49d0597dc59215d2300b027eff560251f4fd475.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/edf8049b9c1699b8743b59f7e955e6c4309185d6c5ecc0e4e0f3fa0ec9486db9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26679b3b808aff0109ad532252624bbaa859a61f033d9fd48081b049b5cf9b05.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7cbf7c018d2ed6af3356e7701928859bc72b4e31db91ffc0e942933a3e0fad4a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11815b02b754f5c6249e4dabeedb0a604b622c4fc424ce9a872378f96691275b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd26046370b07a48cb828ca7115d61659b599e629e535a13b43fec0ddc4ec50f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af0027c8b31c3c0df8c263347e46d2a658581da55a5efcb010230a38c75ad30b.jpg

          36. Hi, Tracy —

            This piece looks to me like it may have been in a fire. Bubbled metal on a clad coin is normally a giveaway of exposure to intense heat… Note not just the raised, bubbly metal but also the discoloration across both the obverse and reverse. I haven’t seen the coin in person, but everything I see here in these photos points to fire damage as far as I can tell.

            Those are my two cents anyway 🙂
            -Josh

          37. Hey josh, remember that 2009 P lincoln penny I showed you that looks like lincoln had 8 fingers? Well I was organizing my pictures and noticed something interesting. Look, at Lincoln’s right hand on the very same coin. He has a hand on top of his original hand. You can actually see his thumbnail on the extra thumb. I will be sending 1 coin off to get attributed. Just to test the water since I have never had any attributed 1st. Do you think I should get this 2009 looked at? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40c9fed08fa4a17f22930e80fd96dfa0a3ac72c481134d684b93d1ca2cc3f8d2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bea2d3220dbbfcd9152a9879495f9f13671ef448b8230b55cca87c2fc150dc67.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b537b11a58575f1f1166738fa35d1d5a36f5b275c24f97943d8b2ef4113a08a.jpg

          38. Ooooh, this does look weird, Tracy. I totally see it… It’s as if another hand is cradling his “primary” hand. See what comes of this through attribution!

            And good luck!
            -Josh

          39. Hey Josh, I found a 1960 D lincoln penny that looks like the date is stamped twice. If you look just above the 6 and 0 in the date you will see another number right above both numbers. The mint mark is stamped in between the 9 and 6 in the date. Here are some picture’s. Tell me what you think. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80717d0c9196dfc310cd01fbed304499b13da2589fa1d0c246d652fb5553f2b3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60d13f080ef770ca734557e68fdadff17247728bed9f422abde3ebd14860d5c1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50d71ed6cba9dc22e2d58b1d4418314fd73adbf61bacd0a65eabb89b34295005.jpg

          40. Hi, Tracy —

            I’m afraid what you seem to be pointing out in the image that is labeled (thank you!) appears to be some minor surface flaws. Doubling would have occurred much closer to the primary date numerals and design elements. And, if it were to be a doubled die from the 1960s, it would NOT also include the mintmark, as this was punched on after the hubbing process.

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          41. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So, when a coin is being stamped/pressed exactly how many times does the mint stamp/press a single coin to get the image on the coin the way they want it?

          42. Hi, Tracy —

            Great question, and the number of times a coin is stamped all depends on the amount of pressure used to by the various machinery. For hubbing it is usually once but not typically more than twice. What really matters most is if there is any rotation between impressions in the hubbing process. If there are, doubled dies are born. In recent years the mint has really clamped down on this in quality control, those mistakes still happen. For example, there are known 2018 and 2019 doubled die Lincoln cents.

            Cheers!
            Josh

          43. Hey josh, i wanted to ask you if this is considered a double die? I know there was trenching for certain years but these look doubled to me. What do you think? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5f8f41315889102929241a38dd2033b03624375a5e272f7eba206f22e3187b1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcef94620030ef92088419b02a7a3d8df9b3b2c6e773c1511f89a11f125d33e1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/804af5f8fd254141597320dacbe16831fb2782ef5839b4d8a83126a337aa37ca.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/480047bc4d6a46ff483003d45b996ddaaa2cccb2aa9b17d9186f4f42e97d2cef.jpg

          44. Hi, Tracy —

            These do exhibit doubling, but I’m afraid it’s mechanical doubling, and on top of that a form of mechanical doubling very common with striking the 1982-present copper-plated zinc cents. They’re nevertheless neat finds!

            Best always,
            Josh

          45. Hey josh, i got a 1982 D rosevelt dime in change from the store today. I looked at it without magnifying it and noticed that it has 2 D mint marks. So I took it home and examined it further. This is what I came up with. I think not only is it a RPM, it’s also double stamped. Here are some pictures. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9247a07470c06efff1fa5994c796459cfafbc96bc199b76c3b125bb023c44fd7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b221a394e23ca1ecea89b815700a5802a78d7cea3ae5954c83010dddfac8fcf.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/673ae33c215e6cedd2236663e3556b803f6fa2b53f6e169c5f2628ff7110f999.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba8fe6a754c93475d208fe5e2ef4529034efcaabd79cb49abebcdb655faa9ec6.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e948cf1c67807eb8685eade71af5c3646273e2aace532b90a11ca6cbeb4cf825.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d28e44c283ba17bd5ad344c59b0145491adad0cedc79cb52f13f1410e848c672.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2dde1656ac8747bd9a3f9f5b5c8bcad269d97b9f958afd10b1b1b06fe811fe5d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4dd39f3ddec69b1573d8144dc872e2717a076fa101a70b15a18033c1f2aeadde.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/21673d94f5c0dca1a22fc1d611b6b09ba5b333ee6bd000a95d87c09aa4655fc9.jpg

          46. Hi, Tracy —

            I presume you’re referring to the dark area to the lower right of the “D” mintmark? From what I see it is not a second “D” mintmark but rather some kind of spot on the surface. Note, too, that spot is also much smaller than the “D” mintmark, and the mint wouldn’t have used two different size mintmarks, as it would have come from the same punch.

            Interestingly, I do see some indications of machine doubling on this coin, too.

            Neat find,
            Josh

          47. Hey josh, i found a 1992 D lincoln penny that looks like a actual double die. On the obverse and reverse. It also has machine doubling. Here are some pictures please tell me what you think. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/158616edac3a1cd80344cfa1d91f56f064d02a744fcf59bf50e17158166cea5e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65f9ca6bd6fba5e909e78b9b33190e59934dbae76f8029527755c38185c893f0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd9f804a836f9330b0bb465e12625b1ab5b63cfd102a2b6ec6887896c9c0dceb.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01219bb477f03223e69fa06811f31e741f0233005edf34f360c951cf85b97093.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd9b72f291e08d12c8b032ce244f99bca0887bcec55c85bf94a06ad767a3d72c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49fe88414fd5ea12997c3fd5362abf13463ce69448ee485f3fc559b9ad190fa9.jpg

          48. Hi, Tracy —

            There’s clear machine doubling in the date, but the G and O of “GOD” may exhibit hub doubling… MIGHT be worth a second opinion from CONECA just to be safe.

            Cool find!
            Josh

          49. I will say, I do see some potential strong doubling in the reverse lettering, which is a bit of a concern as doubled dies do NOT occur on both sides of the coin. It will probably come back as machine doubling, but the doubling in GOD looks hopeful.

          50. Hey josh, i found a 1980 P lincoln penny that is rather odd to say the least. What do you suppose is wrong with this penny. It weighs 3.0 which is within he tolerances right? The colors and swirl pattern throw me off. Maybe you have see this before and can help me out. Thanks in advance. Here are some pictures. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/429d93e76e6f2ace180963553ff84a504bc9a90b9b195ae45ff339f3e1ca88b6.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff6e3bdb975277be319e477ef34cc91249a218e8d6226328d5608af4ae69ee8f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/69cdc14a50dc9373d76d0abd23d8c352385fec601fc76559690c1784a1a8dee0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c33fd28ad3b5f985b6bfef40b8be25494cdfaf6a38ee096f8e1869eb8e3500d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45af9eb6551a5cc09878ab75799ffb86a5b53537dfc05d9efcd046926bc816b5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/56131cc2154b4ae7105e46b7a60d12fb69a2f03a8ca28876f93b3545b71f075a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06ad1547bb78b6cabc58db781bcc3bba4aca9cffef882ce4b02ffe81cbb083bf.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81ed966c1cee2428e56f8e145cef038250a69db68822b0fb4dce83849b110d62.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76229a823591ae2b2a7b370723ebf26b7420e319b5c2b5de43568b396dbed833.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c6a7dc4cf9099747f12e90db9ff2b59aba95b8b704162dcdee1bb4d681263b8.jpg

          51. Hey, Tracy —

            It does not appear to be a defective planchet, as the damage is seen in the devices. It is definitely post-mint damage, though it does not necessarily appear to be porosity. I’m not sure what caused the gouges, but it’s not a mint error. Interesting find indeed!

            Thank you for sharing,
            Josh

          52. Hey josh, i found a couple 1960 D lincoln pennies that I need to st some advice on. The first one looks like the date has a extra 0 in it. It is raised metal on the coin. Also that same penny has what looks to be the date stamped above the original one. If you look at the 6 in the date It appears to have a 2nd 6 under the 0 which would explain the extra 0. The 2nd 1960 D penny is I think a lg date over sm date. It has the whole mint mark in between the 6 and 0 in the date. Here are some picture’s o you can see what im talking about. Thank in advance j https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a2209f2dfae2aa961f836e773a7b090ee1012d12be6f5712130cd56f98e9bc2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/313771fe485e9fd11e12eebcd2262008682e0953a805fb47347a0598fe7c38d9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc94e8a7561d42878a3ad4f1d66a1643cd8c4401442e80f925cd9fdce4aac959.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4642926c3b2afb1b35736fc7b9634e3f658113de501e92b7d61089ba21a711a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60ca43d074b450845217637fd4ffea24f04714d31f7009448c30ac18707cd9fd.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80717d0c9196dfc310cd01fbed304499b13da2589fa1d0c246d652fb5553f2b3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e70705b6a0e070582e497f16863ae30823b1777c79877e34333c317cd85dfc7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd9b34506680ac668e17200b7e6fb12e07acfc65c8777b029b6f24aaab6b9007.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0111b78b1f9a5ff3990ea97c5edc32af9a454b2885a86548174dbca1f08b1e1.jpg osh.

          53. Hey, Tracy —

            In the top photo, the one marked with the extra date and extra 0, I see signs of it possibly being a defective planchet. The other coin, the one you say looks like a large date stamped over a small date, shows signs of mechanical doubling.

            Those are my two cents on your two cents!

            Thank you for reaching out,
            Josh

          54. Hey josh, can you tell me what type ike dollar this is? It’s a 1972 no mint mark. It has a rim that shows no copper at all. So I was trying to find out what type it was because it doesn’t look like any of the types shown on the web. Its weighs right. But looks like it’s silver. Idk here are some pictures. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/14a1d3aec7f2b8870759e570e7c9f8fe6d048a2e7ae2c4612a1250b973ff8b7d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b176d44d774196579a24aff95ff7b1f2a5f18d50fafe240de1a1a1de017d7787.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/058d9a939a6b3bff9f6eeaa9e376580225b19402a35c107486abea9ee2292fc8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c767b23a935893835175c3c4f52a0d142e1587991524868ea81b0c952f6b372.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71315800cd985034e220969ce4add3676e6036951894c56bef516ba911b6c8bc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/75d24676abfd7b1ed21887979d37428f3b6a2f0136079c2750887570228b2804.jpg

          55. Hi, Tracy —

            I hope all is going well… From what I see in these images, it looks like a Type 3. This is considered the most geographically accurate of the three types of 1972 Eisenhower dollar reverses. Unfortunately I can’t make a judgement on if it’s silver or not just from a photo; the coin would need to be weighed and perhaps metallurgically tested if the weight test is inconclusive.

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          56. Hey josh, i found a 2017 D lincoln penny that looks like it has the wrong initials on the reverse. Instead of it saying LB it actually says, CB. Here are some picture’s. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9573f274b7097068a8f852074b1255353863ed64d628687ad5b4b12c14c6941.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bac9dde1440ce099a366976517f0f739341765a10d6d3818dc1cd3af7845637c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e3404da70013bc843e635cd3a63c9a0460a432719d1ad6e4a76b9d6137e80b2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6771df236ec139bca2b54c585d22f99bbe456b7c5c6f2728971552d152c06ba7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a25effb8ad80025e6842830f896f2f532fcf2bfa90109a9ce6afbb1bc657fef2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb21e114470b86a63b61b15c27e95ebfc8cd451a1f2586b2b7ee4360e9fddc9e.jpg

          57. Hey, Tracy —

            This one is weird… My most educated guess is there’s a lateral die break at the top of the “L.” You might want to get a second opinion, though I think it would be a similar assessment.

            Really observant find!
            Josh

          58. Hey josh, i found a 1960 D lg date I think. It has strong doubling on the date. It looks like it could possibly be tripled. Here are some picture’s so you can tell me what you think. Thanks in advance. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/082d6415e812486a7fd918716e21829cf656f604fe76bdf2d2f3cc20e6bb6cb2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4193c5202092d9345141f9e815a4f7e8bfdffaea77d70e9772c5ce2e93b187e4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e45e9fe0a0686221a5b0a5f1d2354b3bdb1db6dee1676ed17167cdf497492ba.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b566fb8506aff28d95017771e59491c263c2075da5726c03245b30313e4af73.jpg

          59. Hey, Tracy!

            Yes, it’s a 1960-D large date and I DO see the doubling, and it doesn’t appear to be machine doubling. From what I see here the doubling is all but certainly hub doubling. I think it’s worth submitting for attribution or certification.

            Fingers crossed!
            Josh

          60. Ok josh, so I found out that the token I sent you picture’s Of is a 1864 campaign token. It has Abe Lincoln and Andrew Johnson on it. Apparently it is really rare. The last one sold in May 2019 for $400.00. Mine is in better shape than the one sold. Should I get it graded or just sell it the way it is? What would you do if it were yours? The info have found on it is very little so I don’t know how many were made and how rare it really is. The auction site was liveauctions.com and I think the other was on heritage action. Thank you for our hel.p.. As always t is very appreciated. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f68aa2f17389075a8350655835521d666990f20f0d4ffc97801790f3ed9d236.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d352b60f5dcff8c0316b760f9710d418789b4c5b11f578d6421f821964a02737.jpg

          61. Hi, Tracy —

            I went about this another way looking for info on the coin and came across this on Stack’s-Bowers: https://coinappraiser.com/coins/lincoln-johnson-busts-patriotic-token/

            They say it’s worth closer to $50… At any rate, this piece is worth a chunk of change. If it were mine, I’d probably try and get two or three appraisals raw. If you get numbers closer to the three-figure side of the equation and you want to auction it off, consider getting it certified so it will stand a chance of stronger in online bidding. That’s what I’d do, anyway.

            Wishing you the best with this!
            -Josh

          62. Hey josh, i found a 1965 rosevelt dime that is doubled on the obverse. I think it is also doubled on the reverse as well. Here are some pictures maybe you can help me awnser that question. Thanks n advance https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7018bcea73185e980dfcf33690dd19bddb624f3650d5aa4c4297111043c90d69.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/63cbcf52c7df1f53ad0a64c07bd470ef18fb75bd568e5e3d4ee7c97113e2e840.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/ima https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/616c2159c49a8ea7a9f02d93412b3ab6142eea952e260c7ee63fd832875f4f93.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8092ac6177bcba1d86781f218bab55cadd028af5e40e232c56c8780325eb19a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32659f81992f0486309d05c6e166ce4acea7beffdc038dcaffef4415f5c4f175.jpg ges/62c3df1a4039108db61a277226896db79542c8c02f80ded3413269bb4d49e7d7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46d73c351037c52f32718bb6e8625d3496100c710cd61916746413612c9c2dac.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/75ef01a178a2c7db0d8e0d1a4b26e9653808600bc8aa93f330fd0e51898b766e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f6991d65996d9d7beb1cd4bcd79b033af615275f61f008aad4c58c2c8421ea8.jpg

          63. Hi, Tracy —

            It’s good to hear from you! This piece is doubled, but based on what I see in these images the coin appears to unfortunately have machine doubling and not the much rarer and more valuable hub doubling. Note the flatness of the doubling and the fact it appears on both sides of the coin.

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          64. Hey josh, i found a 1992 D lincoln penny. It has some odd doubling on the reverse. The AM in America looks like it was at one time a close AM. In the photos you will notice that the shelf doubling doesn’t go in the same direction like it almost all the time does. The doubling of the AM go towards each other. Also is that real doubling on plurbius Unum? Pretty interesting. I have never seen that before on any coin. Thank you for your help. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/22d13fbc72d5ecf00b2281df83bddc95afa354a6f3f221f389e68e7220808039.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6eebecff0bb24e68c482060337b8585f0b50b1046933550a98fa08e32f197a2c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/776de3d0ce8eed14579c6b7561eb9c941be26bccb1f627f0dd620901c92d1f9f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df6088e119edda78d8e16bb5c4e5ea31e32775cf0fa766070c3c01247f6b2ec0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/302ba5fa7c00795bf026725ef1c3bdabb01f9a27ae8fd746006c2a174bcf1d6b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/354aa77f0c88a6a2b6c72a57b3cf7cc9dbd986a91627926ea112d7774dca01f5.jpg

          65. Hey, Tracy —

            This is definitely some machine doubling, probably caused by aging or loose dies. Really quite eye catching, though unfortunately not a doubled die or Close Am error.

            Cool find nevertheless!
            Josh

          66. Hey josh, i found a 1982 D small date that looks like it has true doubling on the obverse. I have to get pictures of the whole coin, but here are some close-up pictures. Tell me what you think. Thanks in advance. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9701d52c29712aaddb5d03027569d6d56ef3d034e52f5cd55d336058af22dd3b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5457234991d3af42eea69c469ca527c8080fa5c517651c31db8ee0a6e6c816c7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c49ea124fa1fda9bd194d10ac05379dd02b0814fe7d31f6dc50b2bcda307ff4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a9ae82658e91b6cbec97035f6322d2f2f6533447fb667edf7ee5047aefcf1fe.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42a667f55e2850fc768a17cc2159623afe34487ad1259dca3c2ebd1586d60af5.jpg

          67. Hey Tracy!

            Yes, I do see it… From what I see it appears to be hub doubling within the obverse lettering. Awesome find…. Are you planning to submit it to CONECA for official verification and attribution?

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          68. Hi!

            You can find out with our 1954 penny value guide: https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/1954-penny-value/

            Good luck!
            Josh

          69. Hey josh, i found a 1974 D Washington quarter. It is not only in good condition but there is what seems to be a 2nd eyelid under Washington’s eye. Have you seen anything like this before? Oh if you notice in one of the picture’s sent hat same image is stamped on Washington’s cheek. Thanks in advance. I hope all is well with you. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e77426ab2b7e2044e4a13ae0fc0b1028b65d18b8a2ee14cfb1e27fc7c6f4c0f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee28564e8d4a2c455a543964c90d322a7bfb10f463e8be429808e9133c18fd73.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/915b6df0d831d2bf7f4cfcf31f5bb80d96c5d48b170fc1463f0c4316ad603e4a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4546d63000bee3c18ecb69d4bf2925919801faf6c3fbe44e3e8274a8d689c5fe.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8e24597b3dbaf669d4fb87a5986be9d502bf115ce0b5d10a796d6055f55e715.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2225840c97fb9dd8c2fe8b975fc80fcebda14b3ebe8e7973166310e08ae6993a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a301da77756e36aac35912a5a46cdabdaaf95da8dea463f6ca623d35c64216cf.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aaa5918a752407645020bc47407870f8f399fd2a1e8af5b208d2faa2dbf536d7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/759b825303570feafc2c6809ce182597e84b1b417f14f3f6353e757d3560e09d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2dca86ec3ba07ba99ae986e479eee663a2a4d6b6ccb6c0e39389c553eb1ab0e.jpg

          70. Hi, Tracy —

            Weird, is that little point below Washington’s eyelid raised? I’m not sure how to attribute this one if it is. It doesn’t really look like a die crack (it might be) nor is it evidencing itself as doubling.

            Weird find! I think this one needs a second opinion…

            Best wishes,
            Josh

          71. Hey josh, sorry to message you again so soon. But it’s for a good reason. I found a token that has Abe Lincoln on one side and Andrew Johnson on the other. Can you tell me about it. I tried looking it up and found 1 post. It didn’t at how many were made or anything. Thank you for your time. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf19ce2ad21cd107f326955908ee7461e81ae663072fd341a5e729221928afea.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d352b60f5dcff8c0316b760f9710d418789b4c5b11f578d6421f821964a02737.jpg

          72. Hey, Tracy —

            I ave never seen this piece before and don’t know who made it. I can tell you the bronze has a very aged patina and this piece is definitely old. I’m not finding any information on this piece. You might try posting this one in a token or medal forum, as perhaps someone there will have more knowledge on the details behind this piece than I.

            I’m sorry I couldn’t help further!
            Josh

          73. The bottom 1960 D is not the same coin as the first two pictures. Sorry about that.

          74. Hi, Tracy —

            That is bizarre… I’m wanting to say it’s some type of flaw perhaps in the retaining collar, but I’m not sure. What looks promising about it is the way that “U”-shaped anomaly seems to flow into the coin metal naturally. It does not appear to be a post-mint counterstamp based on what I’m seeing here. If you were to get a second opinion on this, I’d make sure it’s in-hand for a closer inspection of the metal flow lines.

            Very, very good catch!
            Josh

      2. I’m sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you. I’m getting ready to have a second surgery on my back. This penny is a 1962 D

        1. Hi, Tracy –

          It looks like machine doubling to me, and this seems to be confirmed with my closer research on that date and mintmark.

          By the way, I’m wishing you the best for your next back surgery…

          Peace,
          Josh

  3. Hi Joshua,

    I’m happy that I’ve come across your article on 1989 USA Pennies. I’m wondering if I may have one of the rare D pennies. Here are photos of the front and back of the coin. Thoughts?

    Thank you for taking time to read my inquiry and have a look at the photos.

    Myrna De Jesús https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8291f5bebb2f20dfda6b14e2a8111f4ca8219cbbccdd2b700440ce3f7ede8e2c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4da838a6076c2c3bca74b1bea3982e667a5099edbc40020d7f4c74bd8fedcc6.jpg

    1. Hello, Myrna!

      We’re happy to hear from you. What would make your 1989-D penny rare is if it was made from a bronze composition instead of zinc-based composition. To tell this, you need to weigh your coin with a gram scale. If it weighs about 3.11 grams it’s likely one of those rare coins and we’d love to hear from you if it checks out.

      Good luck and thanks for reaching out!
      Josh

  4. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46177f7043363f3fa229c33c71d071cdaf69486411d704a2441eb76300881352.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/327b5e7349d554b3acdd59287dc544507efccf582d4b735977df2dfa87099fe6.jpg I literally have that coin

  5. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d32e61210390da564493604bd1c57a0a835f818e78688e0605813a9d4546d2b8.jpg

  6. Josh, i got a 2003 penny with numbers 4 and 2 between Lincolns face. What do u think about this coin? And how do i show the picture of the penny in this discussion

    1. Hi, Joepennies —

      What you have is a regular Lincoln cent that was counterstamped with the numbers “4” and “2” after the coin left the mint. It may have been repurposed as a merchant token or something like that. Some people collect novelty coins like this, and I’ve seen similar modern pieces sell for 50 cents to $1.

      Best wishes,
      Josh

    1. Hi Jacop,

      I’m afraid I don’t see an accompanying image of the penny you’re asking about. Would you please repost it?

      Thank you,
      Josh

      1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6aa172a247dbc95a8f22a69202aa72bdcdb73d8bde082269495a9596f4b349b9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05be5017c094f79f16429bc56886f6755d0703820ea3d8946a06dd0e503f06c0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0dfec86a100114517afcebdada19f91c43dbec4bc992c6d4db98a51b7a97c58c.jpg
        Excuse me,I thought that I posted it with it Here are the pictures

        Thank you

        1. Hi, Jacop —

          No worries… I do see the coin appears to have been lightly cleaned and is a tad off center. While off-center coins are errors, this one is only slightly so, and this degree of strike being off center is relatively common — it is generally a die alignment issue. Hold aside, but it’s probably not going to fetch any extra premium if sold to an error collector.

          Thank you for your question and the photos!

          Best,
          Josh

  7. Hello,
    I have a silver in color penny from 1989 D
    I was wondering if it was worth anything?

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    1. Hi, Lali —

      The coin would need to be inspected in-hand to rule out the possibility of a copper coating error on the zinc-based planchet. Such plating errors are worth $50-100. However, the vast majority of these pieces — easily 99% — are post-Mint alterations in which the coin’s copper coating was removed by chemicals to reveal the inner, silvery colored zinc core. This is a common school laboratory experiment. If this were the case, it’s worth face value.

      Best wishes,
      Josh

  8. Hi Joshua, I have a 1989 P Lincoln cent that is not the best looking coin in my collection, but has multiple issues in my opinion. The coin has a fine die crack on the reverse side from the rim over the A in America to the N in cent. The N in cent has a minor die chip at the top of the N in cent. The G in FG looks like it has a doubling and a small hole next to it. This coin also looks as if some of the columns are doubled. The word cent looks as if it has some doubling as well. Thank you for your time.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b36da2946fd3f14c82fccdb4f1879cece62094766220389997bf8e9d4fa7fe1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66b9f4ee00c223c3cbfd8c2410b4e0898561e566342ad40abef9118cfe493225.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99bf6959f12f415818e308509bf4fe9e474183fabbd2697c6306e857c9bb9115.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41118eb30d494100aacbd0d233afceb677569fc7be36aa5f1756583d768a3e19.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32b50186e0bf37ab059988ac63422024a5805830e18e2096860f11952953a447.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66b9f4ee00c223c3cbfd8c2410b4e0898561e566342ad40abef9118cfe493225.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d7f2efab623d52dea88941ad9ba82958d5c1ea630d34bd5cb39471c2fdaa6ba.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4f55d93190679f716f987c55e110c1aa7443439f638dff3edaa9723fe12e044.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b36da2946fd3f14c82fccdb4f1879cece62094766220389997bf8e9d4fa7fe1.jpg

    1. Hi, Paul —

      WOW, that squiggly line is raised? Certainly if so then this is one really nice die break! Definitely worth keeping and possibly worth a nice little chunk of change from the right buyer. Some of the shadowy secondary columns in the Lincoln Memorial design are normal in the design but there may be some light mechanical doubling in there, which isn’t really worth anything extra but a novel curiosity nonetheless.

      Awesome find overall!
      Josh

  9. neil i found a 1989 d penny that appears to be silver . on the back the E and S of united states
    are barely legible yet everything else is clear . Another oddity is one side of the edge seems
    normal but the opposite side is quite thinner. Any suggestions

    1. Hi, Neil —

      Would you please post a couple clear photos of your coin here so I could help further?

      Thank you,
      Josh

  10. Josh, can u pls take a look at this 1995 d half dollar? It seemed to me that there’s something that’s from the nose of J Kennedy https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4a962b490469d7d4d5debc035fe1eb0fb286b1f8b512e9d32ab70ca977827a3d.jpg

    1. Hi, Joe —

      It’s hard to tell in the photo if it’s raised metal or just a stain. Safely soaking the coin in acetone for a few moments may be able to remove any surface adherents and help answer a lot of questions…

      Best wishes,
      Josh

  11. Josh,
    I got more coins for u to look at; a 1968 dime with no “u” from pluribus https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/85ab49db838f9214025096fc675e4 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43ab2f1f0edf2004ca771147906d4b597f27d9c266e8c0e5f523348d12bc17fb.jpg 761ba875581b8ed842d2404ec6a80cd37de.jpg

    1. Hi, Joe —

      From what I can see in the image you sent, the “U” does appear to be there but it’s very light, consistent with possibly a weak strike. Such a weak strike is not atypical and in most cases does not warrant an extra premium, with this piece worth face value. If the letter was completely missing it would likely have been caused by a grease-filled die, and sometimes such pieces are worth a small amount more. Do keep your eyes peeled for grease-filled errors down the line.

      Best wishes,
      Josh

  12. Josh,, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d25fecaf161e807c351cf8665cac56e88434d8cb0a68b9d71549b32907f35692.jpg

  13. Josh,
    And here’s another penny https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ee6623bb5c440e88636dec4b8fdb0a25e3baa26e4907695845b8022610ec3c8.jpg

    1. Hi, Joe —

      This is a regular 1986-D Lincoln cent with no apparent errors or varieties and is worth face value.

      Best,
      Josh

  14. Hi Josh,
    I have a 1989-D Penny my husband found it in pocket change. We did weight it an it is 2.5 so it is not copper. I does have many really interesting things to see. I am sending you a few photos. Hope you are safe, Nadine https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bfe4f90809b87ff32d374d8212ab25242919a8760a24e46bbf406f4d001afc6.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/92ae1b798f186ccea50632974752951f34abbcc2cb07d02cc928aaf21283ff67.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d8c51bdd7d2559ce2f5b5f18da4afeb824b3bab568d907b03d7d3aef99fa035.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70a79397cb3d3ba9ee49481a4babfc1c92c6a8dd7ff0d0ff17ce00fb6ad298b8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59d5d4bc2da4a9eae4f3e8692ec483e20d49a07b904eafe96c42e0a46ebb9b44.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9dd0ffb877fc4ce16bc5084e2c0624d6cd380024cc5d3da01de76fdcedc2227.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/706b609356fb891fd2ed95db9cefbfc6e37f13cf07b38ecbb3a6a588ed1a26bd.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/074d695caf37095b2f25ab83fe049eff7c949cd561c69d983e9d3eb70ce38d56.jpg

    1. Hi, Nadine —

      While I don’t see any errors or other varieties on this piece it does have some nice highlights from a combination of wear and colorful toning.

      Nice find,
      Josh

  15. Hello,
    I found a 1941 Philadelphia penny from my work! I love cleaning coins and I did clean it, but what do you think about this coin? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a86fef47c0979d2f3eb2c79dc24415282adad99fca4e314a619d766208ae17a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1cdfc9f04d3895e12cd5d98e52a6fe3c5033883b068ce4463eb3f79a875701d5.jpg
    Sorry about the photo quality.

    1. Hi, Eli —

      Congrats on making such a vintage find! Unfortunately due to the cleaning the coin is worth only 2-3 cents now, though thankfully it didn’t lose a lot of value since even original 1941 Lincoln cents in this grade (amount of wear) are worth around 5-10 cents. However, do beware that cleaning coins will virtually ALWAYS reduce their value by 50-60% and sometimes much more. The best collecting tip of the day I can kindly offer is to never clean your coins! 🙂

      All best wishes,
      Josh

  16. Hi sir Joshua can you tell us whether it is a copper or has a zinc ? This is 1987 -d and 1990-d one centavo liberty and 1979 one centavo liberty coin and how much are they in the market today ? Pls. Notice me

  17. Hi sir Joshua can you tell us whether it is a copper or has a zinc ? This is 1987 -d and 1990-d one centavo liberty and 1979 one centavo liberty coin and how much are they in the market today ? Pls. Notice me https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/755fc9e6e2d4cb1f11147c11f0308a71fd6dfc19f07f1d4f3ea9f338ccb0b59b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3cecfe2126824b23e3485a916f89b20b2d151db686a658ce20cc5a452bd878d2.jpg

    1. Hi, Gerry —

      Your 1979 bronze cent is worth about two cents and your 1987-D and 1990-D zinc-based cents are worth 1 cent each in this condition.

      Thank you for your questions,
      Josh

      1. Oh .. Alright .. Thanks for the quick response sir josh ! Sir can u give me an idea on how much , if I would sell my 1923-S peace one dollar in an auction house or in a buyer ?please need some tips or idea .. Hope you help me . thanks in advance sir .

        1. Hi, Gerry —

          It’s a little tough to tell the grade in the photo, but I’m going to put a conservative estimate of around $25 to $30 for value. It could be worth more if the grade is better than it appears to me in the photo. Hope this info helps!

          All the best to you,
          Josh

  18. Here’s the pic https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be6f79de4f448855d4ed5c69c19df8a32fa3932914a3d2bd5a16c7f6ee6a100e.jpg

  19. Thank you sir josh , sir final question? Can you suggest a legit auction house that I can sell my old coin ? Any suggestion sir ? I’m from the country Philippines . I’m searching for a buyer or a auction house in US , to sell my old coin .. Hope you can help me sir ? Thank u and may god bless you and your family

    1. Hello, Gerry —

      Some of the leading U.S. auction houses include Stack’s Bowers Galleries, Heritage Auctions, and GreatCollections. If these routes aren’t successful you might consider eBay.

      Blessings to you and yours,
      Josh

  20. Hi josh
    I recently read your article on antique coins I live in the UK and were going through some old coins where I found a 1965 1966 and a 1975 dime and a 1989 one cent which weighs over 3 grammes just wondered if they are worth anything

    Best regards Rob

    1. Hi, Rob —

      Thank you for reaching out; on the U.S. collector scene these pieces are very common and worth face value. However, it’s typical that overseas they may be worth a tad more given their novelty status in regions where these coins are not as commonly encountered, even in circulated condition such as these are.

      I hope this info is helpful!
      Josh

  21. Hi josh

    Here are some photos https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46d159ff4c6056198f98dafa6ce3cbace1b68a30db7f10482eec85cc17f4dde2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e64d02b2421d3704edd396b91f43e5f135dae01e9441db1012cda304c1bb36a5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bad9e7ce5959ce48faeb2e6524718c637d63836ea659bd641272734c886a6b08.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b431cec967c58a563c9c2913706f58b6d8c7fb9dec68f3bcd7c3dc13051fdd60.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3fda4e7bc6ffc4e98b5082996f90d3e729d371fddebdb8f621205b4c81735307.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18b0dee21665933efbdb3477c3b19dd3aa7794d34f367440c96db4f4692d8b97.jpg

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